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When: Day 53, Morning (or all day, the beauty of technology)

[Hm, someone is going at length on the Dissonance group chat...]

John Doe: Setting aside how much everyone has experienced that particular economic drug called capitalism, the drive to buy more to feel better, everyone seems very easily taken with this system of gaining points.
John Doe: Do something, get points, buy what you want/need/etc.
John Doe: It's very easy to fall into.
John Doe: I mean, it worked for Pavlov for a reason.
John Doe: Touch bell, get food — But that means all of you are operating on the basic level of animals learning how to dance through classical conditioning.
John Doe: Good work.
John Doe: Next time, you're concerned about someone or something, try actually doing something before immediately hoarding up points because your obedience training has taught you to see it as the solution to everything.
John Doe: I'm talking about you, Cardigan, King, and Hiryuu.
John Doe: For Christ's sake, we're all already exposed, don't debase yourself by doing it for them.

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Boss: wow ok
Boss: i mean i don't disagree that the points system is bad
Boss: but wow

Edited (html kept defeating me) 2018-10-28 16:58 (UTC)

John Doe: Adding an excellent point to the conversation. Thanks.

Edited 2018-10-28 17:06 (UTC)

Boss: I might have missed a lot of things due to being blind and having to consider what to do with a nonfunctional arm
Boss: but saying someone is debasing themselves to get points for possibly doing well for others is...
Boss: an interesting perspective, to say the least
Boss: so clearly I'm missing something here

John Doe: It cost 150 to fix Haruto.
John Doe: Seems like C came back for free.
John Doe: Can't tell, I was too busy with assisted respiratory ventilation to notice.
John Doe: Look — We're already televised at every second.
John Doe: We don't need to start selling ourselves in addition to that.
John Doe: It's disgusting.

Boss: eyes cost 500 each
Boss: 1,000 for two
Boss: my boyfriend is also missing an eye
Boss: 1,500
Boss: I'm not even sure what I'll have to do about the arm
Boss: cut it off and get a new one?
Boss: what if sensitIV is burnt out and would like benefits for their services?
Boss: basically tl;dr it's also not our fault that this place makes points necessary to remain functional
Boss: and some people feel better when they make things like this easier for people who have a number of unitmates to fix
Boss: that aside, how's Haruto doing?

John Doe: They were crowdfunding ways to help C and Haruto before even knowing what had happened.
John Doe: They didn't even know Haruto.
John Doe: Ask him yourself.

Boss: better safe than sorry?
Boss: since when was preparing for the worst scenario a bad thing?
Boss: and why do people need to know each other to help each other out?
Boss: seems like another artificial behavioral condition these guys instilled by dividing us into units
Boss: and sure, I'll ask him

John Doe: They need to know in order to better solve the problem at hand.
John Doe: It's just throwing money to fix something that bothers you, otherwise.
John Doe: Good attempt to incite me, but I'm willing to help out anyone who wants to give senstIV a break.
John Doe: Apparently, I'm getting decent at keeping people alive.

Boss: that's good
Boss: but i guess i'm still failing to see how getting too many points as a "just in case" is a bad thing
Boss: and it was less trying to incite and more pointing out how if you're going to comment on pavlovian behavior
Boss: you should probably also consider why you think something is "debased"
Boss: but glad we both agree on the sensitIV front
Boss: Peppep too

John Doe: Can you not understand my distaste for us hosting our own "shows" in addition to the one we're unwillingly part of?
John Doe: And viewing points as the only means to solve the problem is my issue.

Boss: no one is forcing you personally to make lives.
Boss: and no one is forcing you to participate in them
Boss: no one is saying points are the only means to solve the problem
Boss: it's just the most expedient and convenient way to cover bases
Boss: so you're not wrong
Boss: except i don't know how the hell you can judge someone's moral character or their value
Boss: simply based on the fact that they put on lives and gather points
Boss: that's the part I'm objecting to

John Doe: Can you deny that I have the right to question and challenge anyone who goes along with the system so neatly laid before us?

Boss: sure you have the right
Boss: we also have the right to call you an insufferable ass for making this about the worth of a person
Boss: unless you meant some other kind of "debased"

John Doe: By all means. I'm just being upfront.

Boss: cool
Boss: now i know who's dick enough to judge teenagers who make up the majority of the population here
Boss: for doing things to make their time in this place a little easier
Boss: nice talking with you

John Doe: Sorry, I must have missed the part where you wanted me to put training wheels on Baby's First Captive Experience.
John Doe: Do you want to be treated as a child or an adult?

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Hiryuu: Begging your pardon, because I don't know what you've been told, but I do know Haruto.
Hiryuu: Perhaps not considerably well, and certainly he does not think of me as a friend.
Hiryuu: But we have spoken multiple times, and I wish him no ill.
Hiryuu: I can prove the latter, if you wish, but if you need, ask Whisky about the former.

John Doe: Yeah, I'm needling in on knowing him well part.
John Doe: You're being particularly defensive. Do you want to take this offline?

Hiryuu: You did decide to call me out in a public forum for the purposes of derision and shaming as opposed to opting to speaking with me personally.
Hiryuu: And then in addition to that, you made it sound as though I had never even met him
Hiryuu: I'm not sure exactly what response you expected in this scenario, but if someone intends to slander me, then I am not afraid to speak up and address the allegations rather than simply allowing others to do so for me.
Hiryuu: I'll meet you offline, if that's what you prefer.

John Doe: You have no awareness of him as a person. It's about the same.
John Doe: It's not, but you seem like you'd have an easier time in person than like this.
John Doe: Not to mention you're not technologically proficient. So, you probably don't have the ability to read tone online.

[

bitch

I can read "holier-than-thou-stuck-up-my-own-asshole-intellectual" just fine. ]

Hiryuu: I'll be looking forward to it.
Hiryuu: Where would you like to meet?

John Doe: Come to wild city. I'm still attending.

Hiryuu: I'm on my way.

[ it's going to be--a good few minutes. she takes some time to splash some water on her face, make some tea, and then come back up to knock on Wild City's door and call out that it's her.

I will not lose my temper, I will not lose my temper, I will not lose my temper...

When the door opens, ]

Hello, John.

[ a slight bow ]

[honestly looks like shit but not sleeping, throwing up, and having your mind wage war on you for 24 hours will do that]

. . . Hey.

[stepping back to let her in]