SCHEMES CONTINUE

[iamverybadass]

Who: Everyone
Where: Individual unit dorms
When: During Day 116

[ At some point during the day, Talon has visited each unit to deliver the preliminary assignments for the protection plan. Maybe he knocked on a unit's door, maybe he slipped a note into someone's pocket, maybe he used morse code! However it was delivered, units have their preliminary assignments and may use this post to discuss them amongst themselves. ]



[ OOC: Per request, an IC post for units to have any IC discussion they may want. 100% optional! Also: if you would like a thread with Talon for any reason, please ping me either on discord or plurk and I will hop in after work, but otherwise this is just for unit discussion among themselves.

Please use the unit top levels to keep things organized, thank you! ♥

EDIT FOR CLARITY:

• For convenience sake, please assume all units know who they are assigned to protect, and who has been assigned to protect them


• Units do not have access to the complete list yet. Talon would have explained that this is because it may still be adjusted if there are any objections at this stage, if asked.


• Talon is present in WC's thread and I am 100% open to getting tagged there if anyone wants a thread with him and doesn't wanna ping for whatever reason. ]

Comments

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

[Going to hijack this post to discuss whenever they figure out AlcheME! is supposed to protect them]

So we protect ☆ZRAEL and AlcheME! protects us. Any objections?

[thinkoutsidethebox]

...I certainly object.

We discussed our preferences under the assumption we were choosing who would be protecting us, not just who we'd be protecting. Why should I care who we're tasked to protect...? Obviously, the most important part is what unit has the responsibility of keeping us alive.

And AlcheME absolutely didn't make that list. They meet that bar even less if we're meant to trust them based on an vague community agreement, rather than a partnership where we're accountable to each other.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

You should care who we're tasked to protect because there's more to our relationship with ☆ZRAEL than just a singular specific protection game.

And why do you think AlcheME! doesn't meet the bar? What do they have to gain from not adhering to the agreement?

[thinkoutsidethebox]

If that's your argument, why did we even provide preferences in the first place? No one has anything to gain by not adhering to the agreement. But we specifically chose the units that we had evidence would act reliably, because people don't act rationally. That risk seems particularly high with the liar/trickster unit.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

AlcheME! was also not on our exception list. And apparently you haven’t been paying attention in any of the fucking games because they’re not known for playing hard or senseless violence. In fact, they’re usually the ones who try to reign things back in to stupid dumb shit.

I trust them and they also have ties to Silence and Duality. More ties than we have to ZRAEL anyway.

So unless you have an argument more substantial than you hate liars, truth witch, I don’t see a problem with this set up.

[Someone sounds extra salty today. Weird]

[thinkoutsidethebox]

[Weird, what could have possibly happened there]

My exception list was formed based on the understanding it would be a reciprocal agreement, and most units could be at least counted on to not deliberately spite the unit responsible for their lives. That's different than counting on them to not spite anyone, or to act in the overall community interest.

I don't have evidence on AlcheME's play style. None of them were present in the mystery game. You're right that they made dumb bets in the auction game, but so did I... that was the strategy that won, in the end. So I can't judge their motives.

Are you willing to completely guarantee they're trustworthy...?

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

I trust them with my life more than I trust you.

Oh wait, that isn't worth much.

Let's go with I trust them with my life more than ☆ZRAEL.

[thinkoutsidethebox]

[giggles at that]

Then, what would you be willing to offer to prove your confidence...? If it happens they do betray us and we all die, how will you make it up to me?

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

I'll bring flowers to your fucking grave.

Now don't play coy. You wouldn't ask a question like that if you didn't have something in mind.

[thinkoutsidethebox]

Well, I don't know. There are a lot of options. Maybe you could kiss my feet and apologize...? Ah, that would be a secondhand kiss with your Azrael boyfriend, wouldn't it?

[resonantblue]

[after weighing on it for a moment]

...no objections—even if it is unexpected that AlcheME! is in this equation.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

It's actually probably better since they have ties to both you and Duality.

[resonantblue]

That is the main reason.

[justpure]

... I haven't met AlcheME yet, but I have no objections.

[And in response to Erika...] Also, perhaps we may need to give the team protecting us some incentive to make sure they do?

[thinkoutsidethebox]

[Erika looks DEEPLY offended at this]

What do you know? This is a strategic, reciprocal arrangement! They should protect us because they're getting protected as well! This isn't a situation where our lives and victory are based on the whims of a random unit, so we go crawling on our knees to them to make sure they hold up their end of the agreement! That's precisely why we choose which units we were willing to be matched with!!!

[justpure]

[Oh... He's offended her...]

Forgive me...

[He seems like he might have more to say, but he's holding his tongue and hanging his head in shame.]

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Don’t apologize for speaking your opinions.

[Even if they are dumb]

This is a debate unit. Fight her.

[justpure]

But... I... Well...

[Now he's being forced to choose between the two unitmates. Which, it turns out, gives him anxiety brain.]

Y-you see... I just... Thought we could strengthen our ties with them...

[He isn't suited to this debate thing, is he?]

They would have less of a reason to betray us if they... Liked us... R-right?

[Can he go back to observing? He wants to go back to observing. It's safer there.]

[resonantblue]

[sighs, time to step in]

The detective—and Intensity. You understand that this new member is still unfamiliar to the elements of this world, right? It is unfair to press him for answers he would not have. His comment was not helpful, but we should not challenge him for speaking up.

[pulls out her phone, pulling up the LIVE app]

So let's step outside. Silence does not know how well she'll do with this argument, but she may as well earn points for dealing with this.

[justpure]

... Thank you.

[Medusa will remember this.]

[resonantblue]

[you will get a speech about standing up for yourself later]

[thinkoutsidethebox]

If he's going to speak up, he should speak up with something less transparently stupid. You could tell him how well being "liked" has kept us alive so far as well as I could, right...?

But I'm willing to debate anytime and anywhere.

[resonantblue]

[wow that didn't hit right where it hurt or anything]

...very well.

[heading outside, this is a thing]

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

[Grabs her by the back of her coat]

Don't discuss this outside the dorm.

[thinkoutsidethebox]

[that was her goal]

[and she'll wait (apparently) patiently for her to get Intensity's approval]

What precisely are you arguing, then...?