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[ Rubbing at the side of his neck ]

I'd rather protect others than myself. I'm not crazy about dying. But if it's just me... I'm all right with taking the fall so that others don't have to.

[ Hence, Rain's existence and eternal animosity toward Sunshine. ]

Hmm, okay.

So it sounds like you don't don't care about fighting to survive, yourself, so much as you care about making sure that everyone's wishes are represented and supported in games, as much as possible.

Does that sound about right?

I care about minimizing suffering among Pep. While I'd prefer none of you to be hurt, I get the whole emotional pain hurts more than physical because I feel the same way. So what I want is to ensure the least amount of suffering among everyone.

Yeah, alright. I can get behind that. I'd like to minimize suffering in our unit, too.

I also think Pink has a good point about how roulette might be better when we have to choose and our choices are severely limited. That way nobody's willfully deciding to throw anyone under the bus.

Yeah, I can definitely see a lot of situations when that might be useful, or even necessary.

I'd prefer not to commit to doing that 100% of the time, though. I'd like us to have some flexibility about targets, when we can, since these games are all so different every time.

Yeah, I want us to have flexibility in general. I like Sunset's idea of giving other units a heads up on what's going on too.

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[Rubs his arm, looking uncomfortable]

I mean... I do worry that asking other units to play rougher with us might make things a lot more difficult overall. Those of us who want to survive may die more. And those who don't want to hit others will be forced to hit others more on the occasions we want to survive. So I think it may take away a lot of our ability to compromise...

I'm not saying to set this up so we never go down. I'm saying to set it up so it's not always one or the other. It's the only way we're going to be able to satisfy both sides.

I don't want us to always crash to save others when that mentality seems to make some of us like Dawn think there's something wrong with not wanting to sacrifice yourself. I don't like dying. It sucks. I'm willing to suck it up if there's no other choice. But I'm not here advocating that it's the more noble option. All I want is people to feel like they have some control over their decision so they can feel like they did the best they could. If they want to protect their friends or if they want to protect Pep.

Maybe I'm not understanding the intent.

Is the idea to ask people to fight us so that, on the occasion when we want to survive, we can fight as hard as we want? And on the occasions when we don't want to harm others, we give up and die?

I'm not asking anyone to fight us. I'm never going to advocate setting others against Pep or even saying that's okay. It's more... asking people not to go out of their way to protect us, like a lot of them do. They should make their choices based on what's best for their team, like us. And I'm not saying to give up and die either as that has nasty consequences, probably. I'm saying in the instances when we collectively decide the win isn't worth the cost, we do enough to meet the rules. We just don't go the extra mile. Basically, if we wanted to apply that approach to the last game, it would mean not getting that last hit on the scientists.

Listen: I, personally, am totally on board with that -- telling units that they are welcome to hit us if they need to. But this is because I'm tolerant of the idea of dying sometimes. I don't particularly want to do it, but I don't want to fight hard to avoid it, either. My preference is to just relax and let whatever happens, happen.

But not everyone in our unit -- now, or possibly in the future -- is (or will be) okay with the idea of dying. So for their sake, isn't it better not to make this more dangerous for them?

I'm not sure how I feel about telling other units we don't mind being hit if some of us, in fact, do mind.

I'm not saying that exactly. More they don't need to go out of their way to protect us. They should make what they believe is the best call.

I would love to be able to just decide everything during the game itself, but that's what's got people uncomfortable lately. We need some basis consensus. So I'm pitching we don't stick to extremes, always one way or the other. That we have a general understanding that we play based on situation and people's comfort levels. People just need to be aware they have options for either, if they want to speak up. I think that's the best we're going to get.

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