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Ren Kiryuu | Vampire Knight: Memories ([personal profile] romanticlove) wrote in [community profile] imeeji_frontstage2021-04-11 05:30 pm

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Who: Pep!pep! and visitors
Where: pep!pep! dorm
When: Post-game Day 349 onwards

[Hey, look! We made it! We're made of glass/porcelain, but we made it?]
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-12 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Besides that...

[Pausing to think about it a little, before continuing, slowly.]

Mm, all of these games are supposed to make us get into fights with each other and force us to decide on values and things... the value of our connections to other units, the value of the strength of our feelings, the value of "investing" that into units that might still lose even when we try to help them.

[As ZRAEL turned out.]

I think that... it's probably a trap. To think that there ever is an answer to "who should we save" or "who should we kill." So if there isn't a solution to begin with, I think that's an even bigger reason to be a little flexible when we can. Because there is no set "value" for any of those things, and whether or not our actions mean anything usually depends on other's actions that are beyond our control.

So... I suppose what I'm trying to say is, please don't think badly of yourself if you can't always save someone. You can imagine a scenario where we sent wed to Taisho and they returned it with wed too, but it's also possible that one of the other units could have stolen it from them and gotten them killed anyway. But whether or not we were the ones to send them "wed" or "bed," the real reason for any of this was the game itself.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-12 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
[A beat. And then, a little sheepishly:]

Sorry, I went on for a while. Does that make sense?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Both of you care a lot. I think... as long as there are people who are willing to stand up for others they love, it's inevitable to have disagreements like that.

But that's alright. We'll figure it out. We might not be able to make everyone happy, and I'm sure there will be unavoidable regrets sometimes... but as long as we don't stop moving forward, I think we'll be okay.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't bet on a future where there aren't any arguments at all. But if you're arguing, at least that means people are saying what they want instead of bottling it up inside and resenting it later.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Some of her loved ones left recently. The details of the game might have hurt her while she was still raw.

If you don't think you can talk to each other calmly right now, it's probably okay to give each other some time to rest. It would be good for you two to talk sometime of course. But if you're both in pain, taking a break for now is okay.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Then talk to her later instead. And make sure you listen to her carefully, too.

You both want the same thing. And sometimes you won't be able to have it at the same time. But if you can both someday talk to each other and listen to each other, it might help.

There isn't any "right" or "wrong" solution. And I'm sure there will be times when the unit has to prioritize one of your wishes over the other, or even someone else's over both of yours. But - it's not like either of you want to hurt each other, is it? Just like no one else here would make a decision like that just to hurt you, either.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
[...]

Maybe, to begin with - do you think no one else here wants to help a unitmate who is hurting?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
[Still as calm as ever.]

Mm, I wasn't talking about the game. What I meant was... you felt like you had to put it away so that no one else would have to deal with it.

Is there no one here who would want to help you deal with things like that?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
But if you're hurt like that, and you hold it in... isn't it just going to hurt more later?

People will always have reasons for doing the things that they do. Every decision you or me or anyone else might depend on a complete chance of if we're feeling happy or sad, or even just hungry.

I don't think either you or Wednesday should say feelings like that justify what you do at any time. But- I think that's just inevitable in a way, too. Especially if there hasn't been enough time to heal from it.

My second question is about the game. Do you think she said that because she wanted to hurt you?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
...

My third question is... do you really wish she wouldn't say what she wants in a game like that? Not necessarily in the way she did during that game, but at all.

Would you prefer if she kept her worries about her loved ones to herself because she was afraid that if she suggested something different, it would hurt you to hear that?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
[A nod.]

Then, when the time comes for you two to talk to each other, you'll have to figure out how to express your worries to one another in a different way, I think.

Do you think you can do that? Maybe not right now. But someday, after you both have time to rest.
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's the most any of us can do.

Anyway, I'm sorry about talking your ear off. Should I let you rest?
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[personal profile] quickpersuader 2021-04-13 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Alright. Take care of yourself.

...

And... if you do experience another loss like that, I don't mind listening to that, either.