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[windsofwar]

Who: resident dragon man and you
Where: Lobby
When: 184 morning

Good morning, everyone! I've decided now is the best time for us all to have another debate, now that our guests have been excused.

As many of you know, most of those guests were like me. Damned from other shows, instructed to take part in the show to make it more entertaining. During the week, we all saw and did many things, and hopefully, no one is holding much of a grudge.

Especially toward Future is Now, because I offered to murder, but they refused, and tried to protect as many people as possible, and we still were victorious, some how. So they should be applauded!

That aside, there was also that. . .live. As someone who has also stabbed a child, it made me think. How exactly do I want to reach my goals, and what should I sacrifice to get there? Personally, I don't think my stance has changed much, but we definitely shouldn't stab children. Only deimos! So I apologize for my brash actions from before.

So my question for the rest of you, even though violence can't be completely avoided here, when is it an appropriate first choice of action? I imagine many of you may have had to make extremely hard calls this week, so I have to wonder. Please discuss.

Comments

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Not usually a problem for ours. The usual suspects are introverted and practical to a fault.

Though at least we finally got over that turnover problem.

[rollplayinghouse]

Mm, I guess that's true. The introverted and practical thing, I mean. Other than you.

I'm glad you guys stabilized a bit, though.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Did you just imply that I wasn't practical?

[rollplayinghouse]

I think you don't constrain yourself to practical limits.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Limits are just a feel-good out to give up on something.

[rollplayinghouse]

Mm. Well, I've definitely improved myself by picking up some of that attitude from you, so I won't argue too hard. But I do think there's a difference between giving up and approaching something methodically, with awareness of the constraints. But I think you know that too, ultimately.

...Anyway, this guy actually sounds like he'll be fine, now. He wants to protect the unit, he just... needed a better awareness of what could hurt it.

[Something she has some familiarity with]

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

He still doesn't understand our strategy that well if he believes we tried to protect as many people as possible.

We're not paladins. And we play favorites.

Just because we didn't have to play hard, doesn't mean we won't.

[rollplayinghouse]

From talking to him, it seems like he's not really a "strategy" sort of person. He expects everyone to approach things as straightforwardly as he does, and for actions to have straightforward consequences. I mean, he just basically announced that he has trouble with the gray area between "willing to kill anyone at any time" and "wants to protect people as much as possible." So yeah, he probably doesn't understand why you play the way you do at all.

It does seem like his motivations are in the right place, though. And I explained to him that unilaterally killing people for you and sparking retaliation would probably hurt the unit more than help it, and he seemed to take that earnestly under consideration, so...

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

He also has a wish that is cumulatively more important to him than the lives and well-beings of 100 odd idols.

[rollplayinghouse]

Don't you also say pretty often that you would sacrifice everything for your end goal?

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Without hesitation.

[rollplayinghouse]

So isn't that the same thing?

[shrugs slightly]

He's just missing the perspective to know that even if that's true, that doesn't mean stabbing people randomly in public is going to get him any closer to his goal.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

So he's lacking intelligence and subtlety.

[rollplayinghouse]

Yes, basically. Or that's my read on him.

But that's better than lacking intelligence and subtlety and not caring what happens to your unit.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Why do I feel like there are specific people you're thinking about when you say that?

[rollplayinghouse]

Well, I do still need to deal with my own "child-killing" unitmates, whenever they finally show up again. And I don't expect the conversation to go as well.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

You think a conversation is going to help at all?

[rollplayinghouse]

...It's not going to make them understand the error of their ways, or anything. But I might be able to threaten them into changing their behavior. It's at least worked with God before, a little bit.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

How so?

[rollplayinghouse]

...In the House, I told her I'd never love or acknowledge her if she killed... someone I care about, and she promised not to. And right after, when she was lounging on our couch with that portrait of Azzy and I told her to get it out of my sight before I sliced it to shreds and burnt it in our body-burning wood stove, she at least took it to her room.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

And your back up plan for when you run out of things to threaten them with?

[rollplayinghouse]

I'm still working on that.

It will also depend on what shape they're in when Lady Death is done with them.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

New Hell infusions and a nightmare, most likely.

Guess we'll find out if God is afraid of anything but not living up to her own delusions.

[rollplayinghouse]

Yeah.

I told Requiem I'd try a Nightmare Vision punishment if we thought that was a good idea, but I'm not sure I could do better than her at it.

[bluescreenwhitedragon]

Do you know what drove her over the edge?

She's usually more talk than anything.