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[puzzlekeeper]

Who: HSS (and pals??)
Where: HSS dorm
When: Day 59

[ WHEW!!!!

At some point during the day, HSS group chat is receiving a text from King. ]

King: When you all have a free moment, there are some things I want to discuss as a group.
King: Meet me in the common area.

[ Whenever they get there, King is seated at the table with a torn out piece of paper with some writing on it, a journal, and a stack of library books about.... religion? He's also absentmindedly rocking a dice against the table. ]

There are some things we should probably talk about and regroup on. Since we're rarely all in the same place at the same time, I decided we may as well make it a meeting.

[ Also to keep Hiryuu from doing it this time, god. REST. ]

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plot info dump

[puzzlekeeper]

I spoke with Anubis recently - he was able to meet with someone who is... working with Asmodeus, if nothing else.

[ He slides forward the piece of paper torn out of a journal, with this information written on it. ]

I wanted to share what he learned, since there are a few interesting details - particularly regarding Asmodeus' personnel situation.

I'm also attempting to compile what I've learned so far [ he taps the closed journal on the table ], so if anyone has any information they haven't shared with me yet - please do. I want to know.

Re: plot info dump

[crossmyheartandhope]

[He's looking a lot better than yesterday, tbh.]

[He slides the paper toward himself and starts to skim through it.]

[puzzlekeeper]

[ STARING INTO HIS SOUL while he's reading.

Are you really fine? ]

[crossmyheartandhope]

[He looks tired, but honestly, when does he ever not look tired these days?]

[dragonheartedgirl]

[ what on earth... ]

He gained an audience with someone working for Asmodeus? How?

[puzzlekeeper]

Uh...

He knows how to summon demons apparently.

[ He'd explained it so casually that King just assumes it's something he does regularly. ]

mukuro meeting

[puzzlekeeper]

Our meeting with Mukuro - assuming we'll still be able to have one when AlcheME is done.

With the matter of points largely squared away, as Mori noted earlier, there are a few details we should probably decide on. The first is who will actually be attending, and the second...

I would like to wait until AcheME has finished their own meeting and find out exactly what they learned. That will give us the opportunity to build our questions around the new information, and potentially ask follow-up questions.

Re: mukuro meeting

[crossmyheartandhope]

Yeah... waiting till after AlcheME's probly a good call.

[dragonheartedgirl]

I also agree. It could also be that they'll end up asking everything that we might have wanted to. If we're satisfied with their answers, then the points could be saved for other things--at least in theory.

Hurricane and I have been discussing some of the questions that we'd like to ask of them, so once we have some answers, we can go from there.

Regarding participation [ raises her hand ] I'd like to go, or at least roll against anyone else who wants to go.

[ heart of the dice, ]

MURDER???

[puzzlekeeper]

Regarding that recent live...

[ for fucks sake ]

I'm sure most of us have seen it by now, but if you haven't - don't.

We were preoccupied at the time, and locked in the dorm besides, so there's little we could have done to prevent it. But since we've previously taken such a strong public stance on incidents like this [ HIRYUU ], and I doubt this will be the last time something like this happens... I don't want it to pass without comment. How do you want to address this?

Re: MURDER???

[crossmyheartandhope]

...what? What live?

Re: MURDER???

[puzzlekeeper]

A member of Wild City murdered Future is Now's newest teammate, evidently due to some bad blood between them back home.

It was... gruesome, and quite a bit one-sided.

[ it was a snuff film lbr ]

[dragonheartedgirl]

[ you know how you said she shouldn't watch that live


she did in fact immediately watch that live. ]

We can't let this stand without reacting. Even if we do nothing, Avante surely will. Cardigan will. More than that, however, there's no way that you can pain this as anything other than morally and ethically wrong.

[puzzlekeeper]

[ He should have anticipated that tbh ]

Agreed. Particularly since I have some concerns about a repeat offense.

Re: MURDER???

[inspiteful]

[Okay he has things to say but where does he even start.]

I agree with what King said that most likely we will end up having to act independently. I doubt even now the community will actually agree on how to handle situations like this.

I...do feel that however we want to go about it, we should set some ground rules of what people can expect of us and what they shouldn't be expecting of us. I get that we want to stop murder from happening, but if we don't set some kind of limits or guidelines I think we'll end up stretching ourselves to the limit, getting involved in other people's grudges and problems with one another.

So I guess related to that, while I don't think this is an issue for most people here, I don't want any of us and whoever we may get in the future to feel they have to act as peacekeeper or intervention.

[dragonheartedgirl]

This is fair, and why I asked that any one who felt compelled to help volunteer. If this is seen as a purely Heart Soldier Senshi issue--some individuals come accuse us of some sort of attempt at martial law or a takeover.

As far as guidelines for our involvement...

[ frowns. ]

I still don't think that it's wrong to want to protect all life, or at least as much as possible. I still believe that it is in the community's best interest if as little blood is spilled as possible. There's been far too much deadly violence around here lately as is--whether it resulted in a death or not. If we refuse to act, regardless of the circumstances, then we're placing a larger burden on Pep!Pep! and SensitIV. I'm not sure we'll be able to entirely avoid getting involved in interpersonal problems and grudges in. Inevitably, we're going to become entangled in things--both peoples' justifications for calling for help, and the perpetrators' justifications for wanting to commit the crimes.

... My only truly solid feeling at this moment is that we shouldn't become an instrument of revenge. If it comes down to hurting or killing someone to protect someone, or as a matter of justice, that may be an inevitable outcome of our role. Even if it's meant to serve as a deterrent of future actions, or the last resort of dealing with someone deemed truly heinous, if we cannot get the community to agree to something better--then that's acceptable. But once vengeance and pure anger starts to determine what we do, at that point... then what we're offering is no longer a sword and a shield for victims, but the instruments of war for would-be perpetrators themselves.

Re: MURDER???

[ferociousfuckingnerd]

[brb immediately checking his phone

and going pale]

Re: MURDER???

[puzzlekeeper]

[ NOT YOU TOO!!!! ]

... So you get the idea.

Re: MURDER???

[bluemoonlight]

[Look he will be the one unitmate that does what King says and doesn't look at the live in question.

He does however look Concerned as people discuss it.]

Re: MURDER???

[puzzlekeeper]

[ THANK YOU!!!!!!!! DAMN ]

Abi. What are your thoughts?

body part replacement fund

[puzzlekeeper]

One other thing...

I'm sure most of you remember the live Cardigan requested when C and Haruto were missing, and John Doe's response after the fact. Though the tone of his message may have been questionable, I think his concerns had some merit. Namely - when points are earned in situations like that, others are likely to misconstrue our intentions if they're not made clear.

I've decided to set aside those points - and any future points earned in similar lives, or even similar games - for a fund dedicated to healing and revival efforts after violent games. I don't expect anyone else to contribute if they don't want to, but I also know some of you may be of like mind. I wanted to let you all know before speaking with the community at large.

Re: body part replacement fund

[crossmyheartandhope]

Probly not a bad fund to have around, even if he was kinda a dick about it.

[puzzlekeeper]

Yes, his social skills seem... lacking.

But it seems he thought we were being opportunistic and making ourselves rich on his unitmate's misfortunes, even if we all know that wasn't the case.

[dragonheartedgirl]

I would be happy to donate points for this. However, my only stipulation is that none of these resources should go towards helping individuals who have assaulted or murdered others in the past and show no remorse for their actions. Especially for those that Pep!Pep! is requiring an extra fee for murder, the individuals responsible need to be the ones paying that price.

[puzzlekeeper]

Agreed. I have no intention of undermining their efforts with this.

I propose a few ground rules of our own. First, that the fund is meant to repair damage acquired in games, not outside the game tower. And second, that no points will be dispensed to anyone on a team that owes Peppep a debt.